Wednesday, May 31, 2017

Just trying to protect you all from Jim Bakker, who's stealing money from retirees.

If there's one thing I hate...

...just kidding.  There are so many things I hate!  Just scroll through the past five years to see them all (wait has it been five years?  How long has this thing been live?!)--UPS, the USPS, the DMV, people who try to sell me things on Facebook, bad combo-words...you get the idea.

Anyway, let me rephrase:

Here's something I hate, and have always hated, since I learned it existed: people using the sweet sweet love of Jesus Christ to prey on the uneducated, terrified and elderly.

I'm going to make a long and crazy story short here: televangelist Jim Bakker is selling giant buckets of preserved "food" for "the end times", when the apocalypse comes, and we all "won't have access to fresh water or food."  Let me rephrase: televangelist Jim Bakker is scaring, then stealing from the uneducated, terrified and elderly.

I'm serious.  Just look


Confession break:  I've spent more than an hour looking ALL over this website, mostly at the comments on the products, which is what led to this whole ordeal in the first place, because here's what I've learned: most of the people commenting on these products are being tricked, and it made me so mad.

Confession break part two: I sincerely hope that Jesus and heaven are real, so that when Jim Bakker dies, he'll actually have to answer to someone for all of this.  And I hope we all get to watch him get bitch slapped by ACTUAL JESUS CHRIST.

Anyway, I decided to email them to waste their time, in hopes to save one sweet grammy-gram from being scammed.  We made it a whole two months before I got the cold shoulder.  Spoiler alert: I told them that their lack of response led to me abandoning my faith, so I hope they at least felt a little bad about it.  NOW KAREN CAN'T GO TO HEAVEN, YOU DICKS.


On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Karen <website@jimbakkershow.com> wrote:

From: Karen <winterwonderland85308@juno.com> Phone:
Subject: wondering about the buckets of food IP: 10.132.1.37
Message Body: Hello Jim, I am someone who you would call a viewer, but the thing is, I am blind, so I only hear your programs. I am wondering about the food buckets I hear about. I am having a friend type this email for me because this site doesn't work with my reading equipment. I am really wondering if you could describe the food buckets for me, someone who is blind. What does the food look like and taste like. How is the food packaged. Would someone who is blind be able to use this even though I can't see when the end times start.
Thank you, Love, Karen
— This mail is sent via contact form on Jim Bakker Show http://JimBakkerShow.com


From: Partner Services
To: winterwonderland85308@juno.com
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 15:32:30 -0600

Karen,
Thank you for taking the time to contact us. We are pleased to hear of your interest of the food buckets that we have to offer. Our food buckets contain mylar packages of food. The food each have the contents and preparation instructions on each individual package. 
We are not sure what kind of information you would need in order for you to be able to read the packages. Do you have a personal assistant that will be assisting you during food preparation? If so, there should be no problem with you being able to use these food items during the end times. We are including an attachment that will show you what is on the mylar packages in the 90 day food bucket. 
Please let us know if there is anything else we can do to assist you. Have a blessed day.
Blessings,
Partner Services
Morningside Church
Home of the Jim Bakker Show
180 Grace Chapel
Blue Eye, MO 65611
 

When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19

 

 

 

 

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
To: partner.services@jimbakkershow.com
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the  buckets of food
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 21:37:48 GMT
Hello Partner,

Thank you for your quick reply.  Here's my main problem, I don't know when the end times will come so I don't know if someone will be with me or not.  Right now I am using a friend, Wanda, to help me type.  Wanda is my neighbor and has the gift of sight so she types a lot for me.  She was with me when I had the Jim Baker Show on, and that is why I am sending you a message.

I am wondering if I am alone in the end times without Wanda or anyone who can help if you could describe the food to me, so I could see if I could prepare it alone.  What does the food feel like.  Is there any option for instructions in braille.  Does the food have a good feel so I could feel my way through it without having instructions if no braille is avaiable, or if I don't have Wanda near me.

Thank you,
Love,
Karen




---------- Original Message ----------
From: Partner Services <partner.services@jimbakkershow.com>
To: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com" <winterwonderland85308@juno.com>
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 15:57:22 -0600
Karen,
Unfortunatley we do not have instructions that come in braille. We were uncertain as to what kind of reader you have that helps you with other instructions that you might use on a daily basis. The attachment that we sent to you in the previous email are exactly as they will come on the mylar packages. The food does have a rather distinct smell as to how it will smell once it is prepared. The food all takes water to prepare. We do offer a $20.00 food box that you might want to try before making a large food purchase to see if it is something that might work for you. A link has been provided below.







On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 7:37 PM, winterwonderland85308@juno.com <winterwonderland85308@juno.com> wrote:
Dear Partner,

I am sorry about the delay in writing you back.  My friend Wanda was somehow not available to help read my emails for a lot of the day (this is Wanda speaking now--I had an appointment at the vet for my toy poodle, but Karen doesn't ever seem to remember the details of MY life) and so I am just now getting to this. Time is valuable as we have no idea when the end times will come.

Thank you for letting me know no instructions will be available in Braille.  That is perhaps something you should consider, since there will be many people affected by the end times and loss of sight may be a consequence of turning away from the Lord, as it says in Revelation.

You mentioned that the food takes water to prepare--do you also send the water with the food?  If the end times happens, there might not be other water.  I am certain that even the blind like me can use the water.

Thank you for the information about the $20 food packet.  Do you have any free samples?  I don't always have an extra $20 because sometimes I pay for Wanda's time to read and type out my responses to these emails, and I also have regularly scheduled bills.

Lastly, do you think that someone who's blind without a reader could figure out the mylar packaging?

Thank you,
Love,
Karen













---------- Original Message ----------
From: Partner Services <partner.services@jimbakkershow.com>
To: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com" <winterwonderland85308@juno.com>
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 07:51:25 -0600
Karen,
We do not send water with the buckets but we do offer water storage containers that our partners can use to store water in for the end times. We do not have free samples that we send out, however I am going to connect you with our prayer center and they may be able to assist with providing you with free samples from their department.
As far as being able to read the mylar packages with a reader we are unsure if it will work because we have never tried it ourselves. It would definitely be a trial and error situation.
Should you need further assistance do not hesitate to contact us.

Blessings,
Partner Services
Morningside Church
Home of the Jim Bakker Show
180 Grace Chapel
Blue Eye, MO 65611

When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19



On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:21 PM, winterwonderland85308@juno.com <winterwonderland85308@juno.com> wrote:
Hello Partner,

Thank you for this email, it warmed my heart to think that there is a prayer center praying for me.  I am very interested in these water storage containers for the end times. Can you tell me how those work?

I would suggest for other blind clients that you either have braille instructions or try to make some of the packets with a blindfold.  Do not try this with just eyes closed, as I know the temptation to peek will be too much.  If my eyes were able to see, I would always be peeking.

This is just a suggestion for future blind people, because like we have talked about, the end times may lead to blindness.

Thank you for sending me more information about the water buckets for sale and thank you for praying for me.

Thanks,
Love,
Karen







---------- Original Message ----------
From: Partner Services <partner.services@jimbakkershow.com>
To: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com" <winterwonderland85308@juno.com>
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 15:27:45 -0600
Thank you for sharing this information with us! We want you to know that your email was received and has been forwarded to the appropriate department. You are an important part of this ministry and we thank you so much for your prayers and support!


Blessings,
Partner Services
Morningside Church
Home of the Jim Bakker Show
180 Grace Chapel
Blue Eye, MO 65611

When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19


 

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 6:36 PM, winterwonderland85308@juno.com <winterwonderland85308@juno.com> wrote:
Hello Partner,

I got this reply from you but never had a reply to my email.  I will put it here again for you because I had some questions:

Hello Partner,

Thank you for this email, it warmed my heart to think that there is a prayer center praying for me.  I am very interested in these water storage containers for the end times. Can you tell me how those work?

I would suggest for other blind clients that you either have braille instructions or try to make some of the packets with a blindfold.  Do not try this with just eyes closed, as I know the temptation to peek will be too much. If my eyes were able to see, I would always be peeking.

This is just a suggestion for future blind people, because like we have talked about, the end times may lead to blindness.

Thank you for sending me more information about the water buckets for sale and thank you for praying for me.

Thanks,
Love,
Karen



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Partner Services <partner.services@jimbakkershow.com>
To: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com" <winterwonderland85308@juno.com>
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 17:20:23 -0500
Karen,
The water storage containers are stackable plastic units.  They are meant to be filled with water and stored. We apologize that we do not have any items in braille that would better assist you. That will be something that we might have available in the future.
Blessings,
Partner Services
Morningside Church
Home of the Jim Bakker Show
180 Grace Chapel
Blue Eye, MO 65611

When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19


 ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
To: partner.services@jimbakkershow.com
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the  buckets of food
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:41:09 GMT


Dear partner,
 
Thank you for the reply about the water barrels--that is helpful.  I am wondering about how they are different from the large detergent buckets that I already have been using for growing plants.  The buckets I use are from Costco and have laundry detergents in them, so when I use up all the detergent, I then have these buckets that could have water in them.  I haven't used them for water because I have only been using them for plants.  They work well because they're very clean, because of all the detergent.  Could you tell me if they're the same?
 
I am also wondering if the water storage units are free of BPAs?  I have been hearing a lot about BPAs on the radio show I listen to and it's in plastic, and leads to a lot of problems.  I am already blind and I don't need any more trouble.
 
Thank you,
Love,
Karen




On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 1:07 PM, winterwonderland85308@juno.com <winterwonderland85308@juno.com> wrote:
Hello Partner, I have not heard back from you about the buckets and the BPAs, so I wanted to send my email again.

I am praying for you!

Thank you,
Love,
Karen

Dear partner,

Thank you for the reply about the water barrels--that is helpful.  I am wondering about how they are different from the large detergent buckets that I already have been using for growing plants.  The buckets I use are from Costco and have laundry detergents in them, so when I use up all the detergent, I then have these buckets that could have water in them.  I haven't used them for water because I have only been using them for plants.  They work well because they're very clean, because of all the detergent. Could you tell me if they're the same?

I am also wondering if the water storage units are free of BPAs?  I have been hearing a lot about BPAs on the radio show I listen to and it's in plastic, and leads to a lot of problems.  I am already blind and I don't need any more trouble.

Thank you,
Love,
Karen

 ---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Partner Services"
To: winterwonderland85308@juno.com
Subject: You are important to us. Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 1:08:57 -0700

Thank you valued partner for your recent email. You are very important to us.
 
We have been experiencing a high volume of incoming calls and emails and we only have a handful of dedicated agents that respond to these emails and incoming partner service phone calls. We feel that the reason for your email is very important, and we would like to assure you that we will respond to it as quickly as we can. We would like to thank you for your understanding and patience as we work through all of our growing pains.
 
Partner Service
Morningside Church
Home of the Jim Bakker Show


--
Blessings,
Partner Services
Morningside Church
Home of the Jim Bakker Show
180 Grace Chapel
Blue Eye, MO 65611
 

When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19



 ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
To: partner.services@jimbakkershow.com
Subject: Re: You are important to us. Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerS how.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 17:37:54 GMT

Hello Partner-
 
I am worried that I am not very important, because I keep trying to ask some questions and they have never been answered.  I will try to copy it again for you here.
 
Hello Partner, I have not heard back from you about the buckets and the BPAs, so I wanted to send my email again.
 
I am praying for you!

Thank you,
Love,
Karen
 
Dear partner,
 
Thank you for the reply about the water barrels--that is helpful.  I am wondering about how they are different from the large detergent buckets that I already have been using for growing plants.  The buckets I use are from Costco and have laundry detergents in them, so when I use up all the detergent, I then have these buckets that could have water in them.  I haven't used them for water because I have only been using them for plants.  They work well because they're very clean, because of all the detergent.  Could you tell me if they're the same?
 
I am also wondering if the water storage units are free of BPAs?  I have been hearing a lot about BPAs on the radio show I listen to and it's in plastic, and leads to a lot of problems.  I am already blind and I don't need any more trouble.
 
Thank you,
Love,
Karen
 
 
 
  ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
To: partner.services@jimbakkershow.com
Subject: Re: You are important to us. Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerS how.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:38:25 GMT

Dear partner,

I am concerned that I have not had a reply from you about the BPAs.  I am elderly and blind and use a friend named Karen to type emails for me, and she can't come very often, so I am always so disappointed when she schedules a time to come over and there is no reply from you.  I don't have a lot of time left and I really need to hear back from you and not getting any reply for a week is very concerning.
 
Please reply to my message I have sent it three times now.
 
Thanks,
Love,


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Partner Services
To: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
Subject: Re: You are important to us. Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerS how.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:01:10 -0500

​Karen,
The water storage container that you are inquiring about are BPA free. I am providing a link for you to review:
This link should be able to see the container and also provide you all the information you are requesting. 
Should you need further assistance do not hesitate to contact us. 
Blessings,
Partner Services
Morningside Church
Home of the Jim Bakker Show
180 Grace Chapel
Blue Eye, MO 65611
 

When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19

 

 


---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
To: partner.services@jimbakkershow.com
Subject: Re: You are important to us. Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerS  how.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 22:29:20 GMT

Dear Partner,
 
Thank you so much because I was starting to worry about you!  I would love to know your name so I can pray for you.
 
My friend described to me the water storage containers and I am surprised to hear that they are not buckets at all, but more like sideways containers.  I am thankful she is here to describe it to me because I am blind and she is typing for me.
 
I hope you ccan help me answer a few more questions, because I am trying very hard to make sure I am ok for the end times but also I have a limited income. 
  • Do you have payment plans? 
  • Can I arrange for when the water containers and food packages are delivered to have the person bring them into my basement?  I haven't been able to carry any heavy items down the stairs since I had a terrible fall a few years ago and Wanda will not help me with that (this is Wanda speaking now--I would like to help but have terrible shin splints.  I have tried to explain this to Karen but she will only tell me to "rub castor oil on it" which is really unhelpful) so I am worried that if they are just left on the porch I will never be able to use them
  • Do you accept any type of food stamps?  I don't have these but am looking into getting these.
Thank you,
Love,
Karen
 
 
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
To: partner.services@jimbakkershow.com
Subject: Re: You are important to us. Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerS  how.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 16:13:13 GMT

Dear Partner, it has been several days since my friend was able to come over and help me with email and there is still no response.  I will include my email and questions again here for you to respond:
 
Dear Partner,
 
Thank you so much because I was starting to worry about you!  I would love to know your name so I can pray for you.
 
My friend described to me the water storage containers and I am surprised to hear that they are not buckets at all, but more like sideways containers.  I am thankful she is here to describe it to me because I am blind and she is typing for me.
 
I hope you ccan help me answer a few more questions, because I am trying very hard to make sure I am ok for the end times but also I have a limited income. 
  • Do you have payment plans? 
  • Can I arrange for when the water containers and food packages are delivered to have the person bring them into my basement?  I haven't been able to carry any heavy items down the stairs since I had a terrible fall a few years ago and Wanda will not help me with that (this is Wanda speaking now--I would like to help but have terrible shin splints.  I have tried to explain this to Karen but she will only tell me to "rub castor oil on it" which is really unhelpful) so I am worried that if they are just left on the porch I will never be able to use them
  • Do you accept any type of food stamps?  I don't have these but am looking into getting these.
Thank you,
Love,
Karen

 
 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Partner Services
To: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
Subject: Re: You are important to us. Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerS how.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 14:05:10 -0500

Karen,
Unfortunatley we do not offer any kind of payment plan for our offers nor do we accept food stamps. As far as finding someone to carry the offers into your basement that would be something you would need to provide on your own. Maybe a local friend, UPS delivery driver, postman, etc. We hope this helps answer your questions. Have a blessed day!
Blessings,
Partner Services
Morningside Church
Home of the Jim Bakker Show
180 Grace Chapel
Blue Eye, MO 65611
 

When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19

 

 

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
To: partner.services@jimbakkershow.com
Subject: Re: You are important to us. Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerS  how.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:01:11 GMT

Dear partners,
 
Oh my I have had quite a scare these last few weeks.  First, I thought it was morning but it was night.  One of the hardest things about being blind is not knowing when morning is.  Second I had a fall where my knee was caught in between the bars of my hideabed and the arm of the hideabed.  Thankfully my friend Wanda came by and was able to help me out of that.  The third hard thing was that I haven't been able to get my email working until just today so I was not able to see your reply or reply to you.  I am worried about the hacking I heard about in the President's address.  Please pray for me.
 
I am very disappointed that you don't have payment plans.  Are there any other options for low income people like me just working to be prepared for the end times?  Do you maybe have other people like me who need to get ready for end times but who are low income who I could share packages with? 
 
Please pray for me partner I am getting worried that I won't be ready when He returns,
Karen

 

 ---------- Original Message ----------
From: Partner Services
To: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the buckets of food
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:39:15 -0500

Thank you for taking the time to contact us.  All of us here at Morningside appreciate your prayers and warm support!  Our water products are BPA Free, to learn more about the wonderful water storage products and more please visit our website https://store.jimbakkershow.com/product-category/water-products/view-all-water-products/ God bless you!

Blessings,
Partner Services
Morningside Church
Home of the Jim Bakker Show
180 Grace Chapel
Blue Eye, MO 65611
 

When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him. Isaiah 59:19

 

 ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
To: partner.services@jimbakkershow.com
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the  buckets of food
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:49:33 GMT

Dear Partner,
 
I was so thrilled to get an email from you, but there has been a mistake, because I already got a reply about the BPAs on March 27.  My last email was about other things.  I will copy it here.
 
Dear partners,
 
Oh my I have had quite a scare these last few weeks.  First, I thought it was morning but it was night.  One of the hardest things about being blind is not knowing when morning is.  Second I had a fall where my knee was caught in between the bars of my hideabed and the arm of the hideabed.  Thankfully my friend Wanda came by and was able to help me out of that.  The third hard thing was that I haven't been able to get my email working until just today so I was not able to see your reply or reply to you.  I am worried about the hacking I heard about in the President's address.  Please pray for me.
 
I am very disappointed that you don't have payment plans.  Are there any other options for low income people like me just working to be prepared for the end times?  Do you maybe have other people like me who need to get ready for end times but who are low income who I could share packages with? 
 
Please pray for me partner I am getting worried that I won't be ready when He returns,
Karen
 
 
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
To: partner.services@jimbakkershow.com
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the   buckets of food
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 20:29:38 GMT

Dear PArtners,
 
It has been almost one month and I still have had no answers to my questions.  I am getting worried, because I hear the television show (I cannot see it for blind reasons) is still selling the food buckets and water buckets for end times, but then no one has answered my questions.  If the end times start today, I will have no options.  Please just tell me the answers about sharing with other low income people.

Karen
 
 
 


---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "winterwonderland85308@juno.com"
To: partner.services@jimbakkershow.com
Subject: Re: ** Jim Bakker Show ** from JimBakkerShow.com: wondering about the  buckets of food
Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 17:33:17 GMT

Dear partner,
 
Well it's been a month since you last emailed me, and I have to admit, I have lost hope.  I thought Pastor Jim and you cared about me and the end times, but you do not.  I will not be buying your food, and I will be telling my friends to stay away.  If you don't even have time to address my concerns then I know you won't be there to help me when it matters.  I have checked my messages each day, waiting for a reply, and I received nothing.
 
I don't even have faith anymore.  
 
It is finished.







And that's that, friends.  NEVER EVER BUY THE FOOD BUCKETS.  But please watch the videos.  They're unbelievably creepy.
 

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